# Naz Shah, is it true?

**URL:** <https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629>\
**Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\
**Created:** [21 August 2017 19:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629 "2017-08-21T19:47:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 08:54 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/21 "2017-08-22T08:54:16Z")

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i fkn hate omg someone liked a tweet stories. I “like” all sorts of dumb shit I don’t agree with. I must’ve upvoted tokyos 500 times on this site alone, and I would hate to be judged on That!

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**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 08:59 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/22 "2017-08-22T08:59:38Z")

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What the fuck is a co-traveller?

#theinterwebisbeginningtopassmeby

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 09:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/23 "2017-08-22T09:35:34Z")

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I followed your link. He’s a man with an agenda.

I also read the comments. Some very worrying people, all with a single agenda.

I’d be more concerned about who i follow if i was you.

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**Author:** ![lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/lifeintheslowlane/32/690_2.png) [@lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/u/lifeintheslowlane)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 09:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/24 "2017-08-22T09:43:35Z")

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So we’re on page 2 of another non-story FFS.

This one has legs?? :lou_facepalm_2:

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**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 09:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/25 "2017-08-22T09:44:26Z")

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I did the same and had the same reaction.

Had an interesting conversation with a mate (Pompey fan) about who he follows on Twitter.

He’s adamant that one should follow as many people whom oppose your views as support them.

His point is that otherwise, you get a rose-tinted view of the world.

All of this is summed up nicely in Dan O’Farrell’s (Saints fan and whitty-lefty-folky troubadour) song [Your Facebook Feed is Not Your World](https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/tracks/n4x38m)below…

[](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uFeqzxSXJ4)

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**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 09:53 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/26 "2017-08-22T09:53:15Z")

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@saintbletch I would follow that [PolitikKing](https://twitter.com/Politikking) bloke just for the opposing view thing but it would be like reading @barry-sanchez

Are you sure they are not one and the same?

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:00 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/27 "2017-08-22T10:00:24Z")

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If you were truly interested in this topic, why the fuck would you ask us?

As I said before, you’ve never listened in the past.

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:04 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/28 "2017-08-22T10:04:18Z")

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Just stop posting, Barry.

We can’t afford the libel actions.

> **[Labour has reinstated Naz Shah after suspending the MP in an anti-Semitism storm](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-reinstates-mp-naz-shah-8356259)**
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> The Bradford West MP rejoined the party after a grovelling apology for sharing a Facebook post that suggested Israel could move to America

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**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:07 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/29 "2017-08-22T10:07:07Z")

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Nope, their views are similar and clearly Barry clearly gets material from there, but PolitikKing communicates clearly and in linear and threaded arguments.

He reads more like Tramp (not necessarily his views, but his sociopathic ability to calmly pass off barely supportable views as logic whilst all hell is breaking loose around him).

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/30 "2017-08-22T10:12:40Z")

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Just passing along, I take it know we can only post sure fire things, no discussion, no speculation, no cross viewpoints?

Just black and white.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/31 "2017-08-22T10:13:14Z")

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People always post on my threads, they can’t help themselves.

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:17 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/32 "2017-08-22T10:17:32Z")

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You can post what you like. This is a freedom of speech site. The problem is that you’re libelling people, including Naz Shah. You insist that she \_must \_have been guilty of anti-semitism.

I say the fact she was reinstated, reselected and ran for election this year suggests you’re talking utter shit.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/33 "2017-08-22T10:18:49Z")

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Pap, why was she reinstated?

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/34 "2017-08-22T10:23:05Z")

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Because the things you say she is guilty of have no basis in fact.

You should really be factoring this into your own questioning of “is this true?”.

This woman had the entire media on her back during the time of the allegations. Do you not think, that if she was verifiably guilty of what you say she is, this would be all over the same media?

You appear not to have the sense you were born with.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/35 "2017-08-22T10:27:31Z")

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Where have I said she is guilty on this occasion? You’re getting your wires crossed or you didn’t know she apologised for her first twitter incident, nevermind the “Jews are rallying” comments.

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**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/36 "2017-08-22T10:31:48Z")

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Why do you think that is Barry? You are becoming more like Trump every day.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/37 "2017-08-22T10:34:11Z")

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What POTUS, PMOUK? Cool, I’ll wait for my allegro to pick me up.

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 10:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/38 "2017-08-22T10:44:48Z")

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You said she was anti-semitic. You said the fact that she was suspended proved that. Her comments are nothing to do with her reinstatement, although I can understand why someone who feels like they may have offended would seek to clarify position.

Start thinking about what it is you’re actually saying.

It’s getting to the point where it’s safer to leave a toddler alone with a shotgun than it is to leave you on the Internet unsupervised.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 11:22 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/39 "2017-08-22T11:22:53Z")

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Why was she suspended then? Why was she reinstated? And what was part of her punishment?

you think she was innocent? Or what she did was? Her “Jews are rallying” comments?

She did something wrong m, was punished and apologised and was let back into the fold upon conditions, am I missing something?

Yesterdays possible tweet like is separate and different and I was merely asking as she has been in hot water before over this, nothing untoward at all.

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**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 12:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/40 "2017-08-22T12:08:50Z")

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**Why was she suspended?**

One would suggest that she was suspended whilst they investigated the anti-semitic claims

**Why was she reinstated?**

One would suggest because the claims were proved unfounded

**What was her part of the punishment**

How can she have been punished when she did nothing wrong? Maybe she was asked to apologize as her comments were, at best, misguided (second time I’ve used that today!!)

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