# 🇫🇷 Macron's Yellow Vests **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [31 December 2018 16:37 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878 "2018-12-31T16:37:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [22 April 2019 09:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/441 "2019-04-22T09:51:30Z")
> [@Goatboy](#): > > That’s because [@BBCNews](https://twitter.com/BBCNews) [@Channel4News](https://twitter.com/Channel4News) et al, are deliberately NOT showing it. This serves phoney democrats like [@EmmanuelMacron](https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron) [@JunckerEU](https://twitter.com/JunckerEU) & [@guyverhofstadt](https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt), but it does NOT serve truth. [@10DowningStreet](https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet) [twitter.com/PartisanDE/sta…](https://twitter.com/PartisanDE/status/1120007544787877889) Uhm… > **[Paris police fire tear gas at demonstrators](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-47998455)** > > Police in the French capital fire tear gas as a number of motorbikes are set on fire by protesters. Thing is, folks seem to only look at headline page and not at the all the news… should this be headline when 290 are killed in bomb blasts? Is the report balanced and fair? Not the point, but someone should maybe point MarkGB in the right direction…This took 10 seconds and 2 clicks to locate… and its Why I find these ‘instajournos’ and twitter arseholes so ridiculous… just say what they want to believe without even bothering to check such basic stuff… and there are plenty of videos and reports of teh ongoing violence… just what this social media generation want surely, no one watches live TV any more do they… ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [22 April 2019 10:04 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/442 "2019-04-22T10:04:04Z")
Not what I would call a balanced report and it’s tucked away on the website. Did they ‘show’ it on the news? No. But I take your point. The footage, and that in the Beeley tweet is fucking shocking though. If that’s not worth reporting on the main news then I wonder if anyone will give a fuck if our Police are ever called to suppress a demonstration in this way. ---
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [22 April 2019 10:09 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/443 "2019-04-22T10:09:52Z")
Thing is there is a fuck load of shocking and shitty news… not sure a click on the first page of European news is that tucked away though; if you are interested in what is happening in Europe, I would suggest to that guy he might venture a click on the ‘Europe’ news tab. Of course there has always been bias in the media… and ridiculous angles as well… Jonathon Pie did a nice bit on the Climate change protest… ‘the world is fuckingi tself and the media angle is all about shoppers being disrupted and travel woes…’ but as said earlier, my point was not defend the MSM or Macron… but just to highlight that whilst Social media might be a great tool for democratising the news, too many have hijacked it for their own poorly researched propaganda… its as bad as the msm, just folks believe it because its not the msm and it must somehow be better… Trump won an election on that shit… ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [22 April 2019 10:21 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/444 "2019-04-22T10:21:33Z")
Bastard @Map-Of-Tasmania I was just going to say pretty much all that. 3 clicks on the BBC website got me there. ---
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [22 April 2019 11:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/445 "2019-04-22T11:08:57Z")
Being an annoying bastard; Its my mission in life 😉 ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [22 April 2019 12:04 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/446 "2019-04-22T12:04:36Z")
It’s hugely important that this isn’t on the TV news. First, there are still a whole group of people that still watch TV news, and still get their concept of what is important from TV news. The problem is that TV news, through its sins of omission, shows us what it really is. When Pussy Riot get more headlines than state violence on French streets, TV news is at the very least, an institution that is dangerously selective in its coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [22 April 2019 12:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/447 "2019-04-22T12:24:46Z")
Indeed. Can you imagine the amount of coverage there would be if these 23 consecutive weeks of demos had been in Russia? We would have calls for intervention and regime change on a daily basis. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [22 April 2019 12:33 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/448 "2019-04-22T12:33:22Z")
True @pap, though arguably most people these days also get their news online - I seem to recall reading that over +2/3rds of the population own a smart phone nowadays. My kids I know don’t watch the news on TV but get news from a range of online sources - mainstream sites included. Personally I find some People merrily going on line and quoting “facts” about the media being muzzled on the Paris riots by a mysterious “they” a bit disingenuous tbh, even if the content they (the conspiracy believers) say isn’t being published is in plain sight and readily accessible, but it makes a good story I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [22 April 2019 12:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/449 "2019-04-22T12:38:57Z")
online is certainly catching up. TV coverage still has a huge impact though. > **[Ofcom publishes its 2018 News Consumption in the UK research report | Wiggin LLP](https://www.wiggin.co.uk/insight/ofcom-publishes-its-2018-news-consumption-in-the-uk-research-report/)** > > The report looks at the way adults and older children in the UK consume news across television, radio, print, social media, other internet sources and magazines. The report follows qualitative research which explored people’s relationship with online... ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [22 April 2019 12:40 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/450 "2019-04-22T12:40:52Z")
Interesting @Goatboy ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2019 05:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/451 "2019-04-26T05:20:35Z")
> **[Macron unveils reforms after yellow-vest protests](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48059063)** > > France's president responds to five months of weekly protests against economic inequality. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2019 18:25 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/452 "2019-04-26T18:25:32Z")
So, are you gonna give up this thread now @Goatboy? 😉 😀 😂 😲😒😞 ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2019 22:22 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/453 "2019-04-26T22:22:36Z")
Yeah, all looks sorted to me. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2019 23:16 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/454 "2019-04-26T23:16:21Z")
Probably not - give it a couple of weeks ---
**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [27 April 2019 16:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/455 "2019-04-27T16:29:45Z")
This must be a disappointment. The fail reporting on Yellow Vests, whatever next > **[Yellow Vest riots erupt in France for the 24th 'Day of Rage' in a row](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6966779/Yellow-Vest-riots-erupt-France-24th-Day-Rage-row-police-fire-tear-gas.html)** > > Riot police unleashed tear gas on Yellow Vest protesters in Strasbourg today. The fighting happened despite a series of €5million measures laid out by French President Emmanuel Macron. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [27 April 2019 21:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/456 "2019-04-27T21:27:38Z")
> **[Leftwing activists join gilets jaunes for peaceful Paris protest](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/27/leftwing-activists-join-gilets-jaunes-for-peaceful-paris-protest?CMP=share_btn_tw)** > > Figures from radical left and trade unionists join march as clashes break out in Strasbourg ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [2 May 2019 06:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/457 "2019-05-02T06:23:55Z")
Definitely fizzling out. Weekend warriors etc. [https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1123662301666717705](https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1123662301666717705) ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [2 May 2019 08:46 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/458 "2019-05-02T08:46:03Z")
If you consider the general tenets of democratic governance, not least the concept of being governed by consent, events in France look deeply damaging to the long term stability of that country. For the past six months, you’ve had French citizens on the streets effectively saying “I do not consent”, and the French authorities meeting that statement with violence. That is a deeply toxic relationship which won’t disappear with Macron. Those coppers will still be around. That public will still be around, aggrieved, full of righteous enmity. A change of the man at the top will do little to undo the damage that has been done on the ground. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [3 May 2019 06:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/459 "2019-05-03T06:18:16Z")
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**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [3 May 2019 07:15 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/460 "2019-05-03T07:15:09Z")
I suppose a good thing would be to ask the vast majority of the population who haven’t been on the streets (for whatever reason) what they think. I suspect there will be sympathy with the protesters and also the opposite. Just because organised (ish) protests have been going on so long doesn’t mean it’s the “will of the people” - Brexit shows there can be two distinct camps. Who’s right in France? Not going to pin my flag to pro or anti protesters. [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878.md?page=22) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878.md?page=24)