# Is Gina Miller an establishment plant? **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [26 April 2017 16:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247 "2017-04-26T16:24:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 16:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/1 "2017-04-26T16:24:29Z")
## Fuck democracy, just keep trying until you get what you want, the wealthy who may lose out as we leave the EU only hardens my opinion on leaving, the rich and wealthy simply can’t accept this vote, the enemy within. ---
**Author:** ![Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fatso/32/18_2.png) [@Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fatso)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 16:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/2 "2017-04-26T16:31:31Z")
do you mean glen Miller? ---
**Author:** ![Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fatso/32/18_2.png) [@Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fatso)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 16:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/3 "2017-04-26T16:31:52Z")
Roger Milla? ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 16:32 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/4 "2017-04-26T16:32:20Z")
![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/7/f757ef1e2b514377d6051b2aa552fe7dab04d8c1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 16:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/5 "2017-04-26T16:41:24Z")
Was that his forename or surname? ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 16:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/6 "2017-04-26T16:47:52Z")
To do what, @barry-sanchez ? Turn more people onto Remain or off it? I can’t work it out. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 16:48 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/7 "2017-04-26T16:48:15Z")
Think Barry means Windy Miller @fatso ---
**Author:** ![steveintheforest](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/steveintheforest/32/135_2.png) [@steveintheforest](https://www.sotonians.com/u/steveintheforest)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 16:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/8 "2017-04-26T16:50:56Z")
![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/1/f1eb18733f596009ca6026fe4853642864ef9d96.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 16:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/9 "2017-04-26T16:50:59Z")
Thank fuck…I thought it was just me thinking Barry was being more cryptic that usual ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 18:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/10 "2017-04-26T18:14:28Z")
I think she’s been sent out there to annoy people into accepting Leave. ---
**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 18:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/11 "2017-04-26T18:44:50Z")
Gina Miller is raising funds in support of a campaign against a hard Brexit. I was out of the country at the time so maybe I missed something, but I thought we voted to leave without specifying a hard or a soft exit? I am not sure why this is anti democratic? On the other hand, Farage’s claim that he would continue to fight against our remaining in the EU if the Brexiter’s had lost 48-52 would seem to be somewhat anti-democratic. I wonder if Barry “Tolerant” Sanchez would be slagging him off on here if that was the case? Probably not as Farage hates liberals and Johnny Foreigners too. ---
**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 18:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/12 "2017-04-26T18:50:53Z")
Perhaps he means Arthur Miller, the famous American playwright who was married to Marilyn Monroe. ---
**Author:** ![TheCholulaKid](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/thecholulakid/32/17_2.png) [@TheCholulaKid](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TheCholulaKid)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 19:00 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/13 "2017-04-26T19:00:21Z")
Who would you rather see win the French election, Pap? Macron or Le Pen? ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 19:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/14 "2017-04-26T19:03:04Z")
Could be he meant the (shite) film “We’re the Millers”? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 19:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/15 "2017-04-26T19:18:01Z")
The extreme left rumours have it in France are going for Le Pen, why go for a banker when you can have a revolution? ---
**Author:** ![PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/philippinesaint/32/3978_2.png) [@PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/PhilippineSaint)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 19:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/16 "2017-04-26T19:27:55Z")
Is Pap allowed to enter the French Election run off? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 19:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/17 "2017-04-26T19:36:09Z")
He dislikes liberals which is fine by me, the conversation with his German wife must be interesting then… ---
**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 19:56 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/18 "2017-04-26T19:56:33Z")
That would be the same wife who said they have been living separate lives for several years then? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 20:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/19 "2017-04-26T20:03:23Z")
He loved her but couldn’t understand German… ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [26 April 2017 20:30 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247/20 "2017-04-26T20:30:07Z")
Both of them are legitimate run-off candidates. Both have their dangers, and both have some of the same problems to deal with. Neither has much of a Parliamentary presence and while the June elections may change that, each will need either a Parliamentary base or have to govern with other parties on a supply and confidence arrangement. The obvious worry is Le Pen getting in, spouting a load of xenophobic populist bollocks, and \_then \_doing well in the Parliamentaries. I’m no fan of the EU, but the sort of capers FN could get up to with a President and a Parliamentary majority are not a price worth paying. Ultimately it’s a question for the French. For loads of reasons, including those mentioned above and some selfish ones, Macron. The EU is going to spin apart, but we could do with that not happening now. [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/is-gina-miller-an-establishment-plant/1247.md?page=2)