# 🇮🇷 Iran **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [16 May 2019 18:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080 "2019-05-16T18:03:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2019 13:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/61 "2019-06-15T13:11:33Z")
[https://www.newsweek.com/iran-gulf-oman-germany-trump-administration-1444112](https://www.newsweek.com/iran-gulf-oman-germany-trump-administration-1444112) ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2019 16:09 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/62 "2019-06-15T16:09:39Z")
But Hunt thinks otherwise. > ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2019 17:06 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/63 "2019-06-15T17:06:37Z")
> **[US gov narrative blaming Iran for oil tanker attacks falls apart in hours |...](https://thegrayzone.com/2019/06/14/us-iran-oil-tanker-attacks-kyrgyzstan/)** > > Trump admin's claim Iran attacked oil tankers in Gulf of Oman was debunked. But US disrupted Iranian diplomacy at Shanghai Cooperation Org summit in Bishkek ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [16 June 2019 14:07 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/64 "2019-06-16T14:07:43Z")
lol. > ---
**Author:** ![lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/lifeintheslowlane/32/690_2.png) [@lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/u/lifeintheslowlane)\ **Post date:** [16 June 2019 14:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/65 "2019-06-16T14:51:58Z")
Has Tangoman retweeted this yet? :lou_lol: ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [17 June 2019 21:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/66 "2019-06-17T21:24:27Z")
The tanker sabotage clearly didn’t work Is this the next one? (Barry - comment sensibly or not at all please). > **[Iran to breach enriched uranium limit in 10 days](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48661843)** > > It will exceed the amount allowed under a nuclear deal, amid heightened tensions over US sanctions. ---
**Author:** ![Fowllyd](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fowllyd/32/74248_2.png) [@Fowllyd](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fowllyd)\ **Post date:** [17 June 2019 22:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/67 "2019-06-17T22:03:04Z")
Well, this statement has come from the Iranian government and no-one else. The clue to that is in the first sentence of the article. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [18 June 2019 05:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/68 "2019-06-18T05:31:12Z")
Is this the nuclear deal that the USA has already withdrawn from? ---
**Author:** ![lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/lifeintheslowlane/32/690_2.png) [@lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/u/lifeintheslowlane)\ **Post date:** [18 June 2019 07:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/69 "2019-06-18T07:43:03Z")
> [@Goatboy](#): > > Is this the nuclear deal that the USA has already withdrawn from? Indeed it is. Trump said the Obama deal was such a bad deal he withdrew from it…making it even worse. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [18 June 2019 07:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/70 "2019-06-18T07:49:03Z")
“Worst deal in history”, Trump says, with all the ignorance of someone that never bought a season ticket in the Puel/Pellegrino/Hughes eras. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [20 June 2019 17:04 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/71 "2019-06-20T17:04:29Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [12 July 2019 10:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/72 "2019-07-12T10:28:24Z")
> **[UK to send a second warship to the Gulf amid crisis with Iran](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/12/iran-warns-western-powers-to-leave-region-amid-gulf-crisis)** > > MoD says destroyer will be deployed within days to protect British commercial oil tankers ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [12 July 2019 10:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/73 "2019-07-12T10:34:05Z")
The very quick way for Iran to be bombed is for them to block the Strait, and they’ll be bombed by all and sundry. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [12 July 2019 11:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/74 "2019-07-12T11:02:48Z")
Fuck sake, this is worse than Blair. Instead of cooking up a dodgy dossier, we’re just going to provoke the Iranians into ever tougher diplomatic standpoints, all on the orders of the big orange blob. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [12 July 2019 12:07 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/75 "2019-07-12T12:07:07Z")
You’ve got to ask would they really be stupid enough to do something in the Straits? Many countries rely on safe passage there and there in no diversion route without costing millions, they should really just build new pipelines and take the issue out the equation, you’d have thought both want this… ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [12 July 2019 12:09 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/76 "2019-07-12T12:09:15Z")
This is the one occasion where Status Quo is better than Dire Straits. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [12 July 2019 12:16 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/77 "2019-07-12T12:16:31Z")
Fuck I pity you son, Dire Straits are so middle of the road they make Def Leppard seem edgy… ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [12 July 2019 12:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/78 "2019-07-12T12:38:23Z")
Returning swiftly to topic, could the Iranians get by without the Straits of Hormuz? As I understand it, the West are not their only customers and they do happen to be connected,by land, to some of their biggest customers, sanctions or no sanctions. Genuine question. I don’t know the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [12 July 2019 12:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/79 "2019-07-12T12:58:08Z")
Of course they could, they’re using it as leverage though, they want uranium production and the sactions lifted or partially lifted. Fun and games. ---
**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [12 July 2019 13:06 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080/80 "2019-07-12T13:06:26Z")
Just to point out that Supertankers have been sunk in the straits before & there was a blockade #armillapatrol Iran has coastline outside the straits not sure about oil outlets. UAE has a pipeline to Fujairah outside the zone where the tankers were mined The world still needs Saudi light oil Yemen rebels have attacked their pipeline with drones. US may bomb some bases and kill civilians, but the West without the right mix of oils would be in the dark ages inside weeks [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080.md?page=3) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/iran/5080.md?page=5)