# In The Army Now **URL:** \ **Category:** News and current events\ **Created:** [13 November 2017 21:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619 "2017-11-13T21:14:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [14 November 2017 18:05 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/21 "2017-11-14T18:05:49Z")
Why is selling less arms a bad thing? Especially to a rival power on our doorstep? Personally, I’d rather our defence industry to be concentrating on developing our defence, not arming the rest of the world. Given the amount of materiel we have built overseas, there is more than enough slack to pick up. ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [14 November 2017 19:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/22 "2017-11-14T19:36:09Z")
It won’t because we will want to maintain an independent force so this will be extra. ---
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [14 November 2017 20:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/23 "2017-11-14T20:55:03Z")
The hardest cunt with the biggest sword ![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/1/3/135ee7d91f8e554158c6f5c721039febb1a20a7f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [14 November 2017 20:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/24 "2017-11-14T20:57:27Z")
Point being if we were at the heart of the EU with influence, would be to down scale our individual force as we could rely more on pan EU partners in global peace keeping and defence responsibilities and stop bending over backwards to take trumps tiny cock - so scale is what drives down cost. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 07:37 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/25 "2017-11-15T07:37:12Z")
News just in via the Metro, the Army is 20 years out of date, needs £2bn investment and the best we could hope to do is seize a medium-size market town somewhere in Europe that’s accessible. So that’s alright then - best get invading before the pan-Europe force gets going eh? ---
**Author:** ![PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/philippinesaint/32/3978_2.png) [@PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/PhilippineSaint)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 07:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/26 "2017-11-15T07:49:01Z")
If The UK gets involved in a European defence pact it will add to the money they spend on Nato and the UN which the last time I looked everybody in Europe was party too (apart from a couple of Eastern European nations ) A forth tier of spending on defence as they would still have to man the barricades if the Europeans started to try and cross the channel again. Why give the defence budget to somebody else when we have had the English Channel for centuries. spend it on housing the homeless and the elderly. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 09:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/27 "2017-11-15T09:51:45Z")
The point is that the country at the heart of the EU, with influence, is Germany. No problem for Vichy Englanders like yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 10:00 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/28 "2017-11-15T10:00:19Z")
:lou_lol: Vichy Englander should be on the Comedy Genius thread… or maybe not… :lou_lol: ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 10:05 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/29 "2017-11-15T10:05:51Z")
Raise your left arm the next time you want to speak. ---
**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 10:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/30 "2017-11-15T10:14:27Z")
Ha, says Nige’s ally. :lou_eyes_to_sky: ---
**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 10:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/31 "2017-11-15T10:18:42Z")
Yep, good old Blighty, standing on its own in a globalised world. Look, we’ve got two massive aircraft carriers. We can’t afford the planes to go on them and don’t have enough destroyers or frigates to defend them, bhut let’s not mention that. [British forces no longer fit for purpose, former UK service chiefs warn](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/14/british-forces-no-longer-fit-for-purpose-former-uk-service-chiefs-warn) Its Dad’s Army all over - isolationism and thinly veiled xenophobia. This picture couldn’t be a better summing up of Brexit… ![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/e/f/ef145231fc8e6ace75dedf8d294966ccec5d4a3c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 10:33 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/32 "2017-11-15T10:33:35Z")
Two can play that game, Blair babe. ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 10:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/33 "2017-11-15T10:41:53Z")
Name calling??? Seriously??? You bunch of fucking helmets. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 10:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/34 "2017-11-15T10:55:00Z")
It’s easily done, it would seem :lou_wink_2: ---
**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 11:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/35 "2017-11-15T11:12:40Z")
So it would seem, eh? ---
**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 11:15 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/36 "2017-11-15T11:15:25Z")
Maybe you could use it on the Liverpool match day thread…that you have yet to start :lou_is_a_flirt: ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2017 11:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619/37 "2017-11-15T11:18:43Z")
Back on topic. Presumably this will mean that the eu as a whole will be required to commit 2% of GDP to NATO. What are the implications of that? Who are the likely winners and losers? [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/in-the-army-now/1619.md?page=1)