# Has the Brexit argument been effectively won so

**URL:** <https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796>\
**Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\
**Created:** [9 May 2016 12:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796 "2016-05-09T12:51:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![KRG](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/krg/32/1061_2.png) [@KRG](https://www.sotonians.com/u/KRG)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 17:17 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/81 "2016-05-25T17:17:49Z")

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can you point out some of the good bits? I’m half way through and it’s all bollocks.

Basically “anyone pro-EU is brainwashed”.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 17:59 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/82 "2016-05-25T17:59:59Z")

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> **[White 'thug' poster aimed at black voters](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36379934)**
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> Operation Black Vote releases a "hard-hitting" poster urging people to sign up to vote in the EU referendum prompting criticism from UKIP's Nigel Farage.

What about this for cheap snidey politics, they’re getting horrible and desperate, the luvvies don’t like at all and their true colours are really showing , they’re the really nasty bastards.

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 20:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/83 "2016-05-25T20:36:06Z")

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> Originally posted by @KRG
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> can you point out some of the good bits? I’m half way through and it’s all bollocks.

> Basically “anyone pro-EU is brainwashed”.

That’s not what it says, a fact apparent to anyone else reading the article.

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**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 20:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/84 "2016-05-25T20:43:48Z")

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Home come all these Economy dudes saying we have to STAY? I know they’re all bullshit guesswork, and economist is less respectable science than i.e. weatherman or astrologer, but how come all of them are doing their bullshit guesses to make us STAY?

I mean, i get why most the polticians are STAY, cos they will always vote for more levels of government and it must be nice to have cushy MEP jobs to fall back on, but why economistas? What’s in it for them?

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**Author:** ![Fowllyd](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fowllyd/32/74248_2.png) [@Fowllyd](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fowllyd)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 20:53 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/85 "2016-05-25T20:53:30Z")

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Who are ‘they’ in this instance then? The poster is from Operation Black Vote and makes no mention of whether anyone should vote to leave or to remain. It’s simply encouraging people to vote - people from ethnic minorities in particular, hence the name of the organisation.

What exactly is cheap, snidey, horrible or desperate about it?

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**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:01 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/86 "2016-05-25T21:01:36Z")

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I thought it was a pretty unpleasant image tbh

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/87 "2016-05-25T21:03:38Z")

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Me too. Fucking deathtraps without rubber matting them playgrounds.

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**Author:** ![Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fatso/32/18_2.png) [@Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fatso)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/88 "2016-05-25T21:03:50Z")

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agreed, I was disgusted by the woman.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:06 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/89 "2016-05-25T21:06:59Z")

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Who financed it? Who stands to benefit from it?  
Its cheap and low and serves no purpose, imagine if that was the other way round with a similar cheap shot concerning integration or the housing market being put under extreme pressure?

Don’t be contrary, you surely can’t agree with this type of crap?

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**Author:** ![Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fatso/32/18_2.png) [@Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fatso)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/90 "2016-05-25T21:11:56Z")

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who did finance it? Was it that bloody woman on the see saw? I knew she was a bad egg.

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/91 "2016-05-25T21:13:49Z")

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fucking sandals.

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**Author:** ![TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TedMaul)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:17 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/92 "2016-05-25T21:17:39Z")

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Operation Black Vote?

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/93 "2016-05-25T21:19:33Z")

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People will see through this reverse racist crap, if I was a skinhead I’d be offended at the presumption

1. I’m anti EU
2. I’m a racist

Wrong on many accounts and I don’t think this will be the end of it.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/94 "2016-05-25T21:20:22Z")

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You only said egg as you are eating a chocolate one…

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**Author:** ![TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TedMaul)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:21 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/95 "2016-05-25T21:21:34Z")

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It won’t be the end of it, that’s for sure 🙂

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**Author:** ![Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fatso/32/18_2.png) [@Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fatso)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:22 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/96 "2016-05-25T21:22:50Z")

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> Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez

People will see through this reverse racist crap, if I was a skinhead I’d be offended at the presumption 1) I’m anti EU 2) I’m a racist Wrong on many accounts and I don’t think this will be the end of it.

Are you a skinhead? Or are you getting offended on someone’s else’s behalf? I thought you hated that sort of thing?

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**Author:** ![Fowllyd](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fowllyd/32/74248_2.png) [@Fowllyd](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fowllyd)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/97 "2016-05-25T21:28:03Z")

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Operation Black Vote financed it. It’s got their name on it, or had you not noticed? Who stands to benefit from it? I assume that OBV hope it willl encourage people from ethnic minorities to register and to actually vote. Is any of this really so hard to understand?

Does it give any indication of what way anyone should vote in the referendum? It does not. If it’s not part of the Remain campaign (which it clearly isn’t), then why put a link to it in here and talk as if it is?

If you’d bothered to read the article you’d have found an explanation as to what the image is all about. Bit much to ask though, I realise.

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**Author:** ![TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TedMaul)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:32 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/98 "2016-05-25T21:32:14Z")

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The IFS are completely neutral politically. And the only think tank that is. It’s full of super smart oxbridge economy graduates.

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**Author:** ![TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TedMaul)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/99 "2016-05-25T21:34:14Z")

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I had to interview some of them before last years budget and they just crunch numbers

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**Author:** ![TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TedMaul)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2016 21:37 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/has-the-brexit-argument-been-effectively-won-so/2796/100 "2016-05-25T21:37:26Z")

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I’m posting too much again 😲

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