# 🔥 Grenfell Fire **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [14 June 2017 05:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408 "2017-06-14T05:47:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 05:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/1 "2017-06-14T05:47:00Z")
Hideous. ## [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40269625](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40269625) ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 05:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/2 "2017-06-14T05:49:01Z")
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**Author:** ![WorzelScummage](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/worzelscummage/32/73175_2.png) [@WorzelScummage](https://www.sotonians.com/u/WorzelScummage)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 06:16 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/3 "2017-06-14T06:16:55Z")
The amount of articles and complaints made by that group is ridiculous. There will be criminal ramifications from this. Personally, I can’t think of anything more terrifying than what the people on the top floors would have been through. So sad :lou_sad: ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 06:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/4 "2017-06-14T06:24:49Z")
Well that made my jaw hit the floor when I turned the telly on poor bastards and if any of that stuff is true re fire safety then some people need jail time (one evacuee is claiming there was no fire alarm sounding as he left the building) ---
**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 06:25 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/5 "2017-06-14T06:25:35Z")
No idea on the cause etc, but I do notice that the buidling had been reclad. Cladding issues have been reported as a worry in Tower Block fires here and in other places like Sydney. Time for a global rethink? ---
**Author:** ![Rallyboy](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/0ea827/32.png) [@Rallyboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Rallyboy)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 07:04 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/6 "2017-06-14T07:04:28Z")
In the current climate, let’s hope this is just a tragic accident of epic proportions. ---
**Author:** ![lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/lifeintheslowlane/32/690_2.png) [@lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/u/lifeintheslowlane)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 07:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/7 "2017-06-14T07:11:22Z")
I haven’t watched the reports on TV this morning…I don’t want to either but it’s going to be near impossible I’m afraid. That resident’s association blog looks like there will be a massive criminal investigation. Fuck manslaughter…it sounds like murder. Those responsible and all implicated in passing flawed and useless regulations should be publicly villifed and locked up for the rest of their lives. :lou_angry: ---
**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 09:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/8 "2017-06-14T09:11:46Z")
Horrifying. ---
**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 10:30 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/9 "2017-06-14T10:30:27Z")
Full link to the web site Posted November 2016 Previous engorcement actions and a previous fire in another unit > **[KCTMO – Playing with fire!](https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/)** > > It is a truly terrifying thought but the Grenfell Action Group firmly believe that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and incompetence of our landlord, the  KCTMO, and bring an en… ---
**Author:** ![lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/lifeintheslowlane/32/690_2.png) [@lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/u/lifeintheslowlane)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 10:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/10 "2017-06-14T10:49:16Z")
This is the final paragraph of the blog… " **The Grenfell Action Group predict that it won’t be long before the words of this blog come back to haunt the KCTMO management and we will do everything in our power to ensure that those in authority know how long and how appallingly our landlord has ignored their responsibility to ensure the heath and safety of their tenants and leaseholders. They can’t say that they haven’t been warned!"** ---
**Author:** ![Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fatso/32/18_2.png) [@Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fatso)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 12:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/11 "2017-06-14T12:11:27Z")
Fuck me. I know no investigating has been conducted yet but it looks damming and disgraceful. ---
**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 12:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/12 "2017-06-14T12:18:59Z")
Philip Davies is a truly odious individual > ---
**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 13:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/13 "2017-06-14T13:08:15Z")
The only blessing is that the death toll isnt much higher. When I first saw the pictures I thought that few would escape. ---
**Author:** ![steveintheforest](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/steveintheforest/32/135_2.png) [@steveintheforest](https://www.sotonians.com/u/steveintheforest)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 13:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/14 "2017-06-14T13:28:43Z")
This is very sad. I’ve lived in a high rise for a short while in the past and can only imagine how terrifying it must of been for the residents. I shudder to think how many lives will be affected, not only by injury/death but by losing everything they own. 150 flats - 400 to 600 people … I really feel for them. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 17:09 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/15 "2017-06-14T17:09:06Z")
Genuinely one of the most tragic events I’ve ever seen unfold in this country. Felt sick to my stomach listening to some of the accounts. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 18:17 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/16 "2017-06-14T18:17:44Z")
Cladding is fine as a concept. It’s what you make the cladding out of. Don’t know what they made this out of, but according to eyewitness reports, the fire got from the fourth floor to the top in 20 minutes. The other factor may have been the “polystyrene-like” insulation material, coming off in chunks. When you read the Glenfell action report, this really does look like a tragedy in slow motion. That’s the thing I can’t get out of my head; the horror that these people must have experienced before the fires took them. It also appears that if concerns had been listened to, it could have been entirely avoided. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 18:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/17 "2017-06-14T18:34:56Z")
Blag cladding, race to the bottom, why are we doing up (loosely termed) these towers of deprivation anyway? People need houses, if people choose to live like that fine, but people shouldn’t be placed there. ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 18:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/18 "2017-06-14T18:38:19Z")
This is one report about why there was cladding [grenfell-tower-cladding-fire-cause-improve-kensington-block-flats-appearance-blaze-24-storey-west-a7789951.html](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-cladding-fire-cause-improve-kensington-block-flats-appearance-blaze-24-storey-west-a7789951.html) My colleague said her good friend lives opposite and could hear screaming she wont forget. Sometimes the bad news seems endless. ---
**Author:** ![WorzelScummage](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/worzelscummage/32/73175_2.png) [@WorzelScummage](https://www.sotonians.com/u/WorzelScummage)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 18:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/19 "2017-06-14T18:44:12Z")
Just got to Kos, so just catching up on this, but the cladding would probably be pretty fire resistant. However, what fixes it to the building? My bet is wooden battons… ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [14 June 2017 18:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408/20 "2017-06-14T18:50:44Z")
@intiniki posted a link which suggests the insulation could be to blame. [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/grenfell-fire/3408.md?page=2)