# Fantasy Tory Leadership Game

**URL:** <https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492>\
**Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\
**Created:** [5 July 2016 06:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492 "2016-07-05T06:02:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [9 July 2016 17:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/61 "2016-07-09T17:45:21Z")

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Maybe she thinks she has the negotiation skills picked up from dealing with stroppy demanding teenagers?

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**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\
**Post date:** [9 July 2016 17:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/62 "2016-07-09T17:51:05Z")

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I now have an image of her telling Donald to go sit on the naughty step

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [9 July 2016 18:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/63 "2016-07-09T18:02:32Z")

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Probably what he needed as a child a bit of boundary setting!

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [9 July 2016 18:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/64 "2016-07-09T18:42:04Z")

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> Originally posted by @Intiniki
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> Maybe she thinks she has the negotiation skills picked up from dealing with stroppy demanding teenagers?

There is no negotiation with these people.

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**Author:** ![gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/gavstar/32/86128_2.png) [@gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/u/gavstar)\
**Post date:** [9 July 2016 18:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/65 "2016-07-09T18:49:12Z")

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With stroppy teenagers? Too true. I’d rather try and negotiate with an angry wasp.

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**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\
**Post date:** [9 July 2016 18:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/66 "2016-07-09T18:58:05Z")

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Gorgeous George Galloway described both contenders as representing a choice between John Major in drag and Faith Brown channelling the late Margaret Thatcher.

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [9 July 2016 19:26 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/67 "2016-07-09T19:26:50Z")

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I’ve been rather critical of Tom Watson’s utter hypocrisy on Twitter. I have stuck to the issues, or pointing out/retweeting the issues, but I’ve had a couple of replies which alluded to personal characteristics.

Sensible side of me thinks it utterly distasteful.

“bastard pap” will entertain the notion with these candidates. They say you get the face you deserve at 40. Leadsom is 53. May’s a bit older, but put a hood on her and she’s commanding Darth Vader.

Fans of proverbs might ponder what they’ve done to deserve this.

Forty Bensons a day is being entertained as an alternate theory.

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [9 July 2016 20:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/68 "2016-07-09T20:41:00Z")

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I like neither candidate but lets not go down a route of commenting on how they look. Let’s just keep highlighting what utterly awful stuff they’ve said or believe.

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [9 July 2016 21:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/69 "2016-07-09T21:28:03Z")

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I know. I called people out on Twitter for it when they started doing worse on Tom Watson.

There’s a whole other debate that could be had about appearance and politics. That’s really what I’m digging at here; the difference between the Nixon vs Kennedy debates on radio, as opposed to politics.

You’re absolutely right though. The argument doesn’t need to be prosecuted on such superficial grounds. With May’s policy record and Leadsom’s publicly stated views, it can be won in the intellectual space.

Not everyone votes on those grounds though, and if we’re getting voters making an emotional assessment about Corbyn on account of not wearing a proper suit, and never voting for him, why is so wrong for voters to reject May and Leadsom because they don’t resemble a person they’ve ever met and liked?

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**Author:** ![TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TedMaul](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TedMaul)\
**Post date:** [9 July 2016 22:05 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/70 "2016-07-09T22:05:12Z")

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[![]( "YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LAQ3UHeoA0)

\*Not for the squeamish\*

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [10 July 2016 00:22 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/71 "2016-07-10T00:22:16Z")

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Surely “trigger warning” in 40pt red bold font should be used on this video?

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**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\
**Post date:** [10 July 2016 07:16 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/72 "2016-07-10T07:16:04Z")

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Funnily enough I assumed George’s comments to be more about personality / ideology than appearance.

Mea culpa.

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**Author:** ![PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/philippinesaint/32/3978_2.png) [@PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/PhilippineSaint)\
**Post date:** [10 July 2016 07:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/73 "2016-07-10T07:29:07Z")

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> Originally posted by @saintbletch
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> > Originally posted by @Intiniki
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> > I like neither candidate but lets not go down a route of commenting on how they look. Let’s just keep highlighting what utterly awful stuff they’ve said or believe.
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> Funnily enough I assumed George’s comments to be more about personality / ideology than appearance.
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> \*\*Mea culpa. \*\*
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> **Wasn’t she in Butterflies?**

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [10 July 2016 09:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/74 "2016-07-10T09:02:49Z")

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It was more Pap’s comment re age and cigarettes that felt t like it was more on looks than personality or policy.

Corbyn is being picked up on his sartorial attire but usually it’s aimed at women.

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [10 July 2016 15:00 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/75 "2016-07-10T15:00:14Z")

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Andrea is being picked on by the establishment. Err hasn’t she been quite a part of that establishment if we are to believe her C.V.? Isn’t that what Farage also likes to say?

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [10 July 2016 15:10 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/76 "2016-07-10T15:10:12Z")

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I think there might be a double standard here. I mean, if someone like Frankie Boyle described her as a deranged geriatric cockateel, which is well within his range, would you be laughing or penning a letter of protest?

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**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\
**Post date:** [10 July 2016 17:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/77 "2016-07-10T17:02:08Z")

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So Leadsom has been complaining that this is “gutter jounalism” yet the reporter was on TV earlier saying that she had reported exactly what Leadsom had said and that it was Leadsom who brought up the issue with May and not her. So then, not gutter journalism but gutter politics. Dont these people ever learn? Also found it amusing that Tories are talking about splitting if Leadsom wins the vote. Wouldnt that be a shame :lou_wink:

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**Author:** ![Nobby-Plumbs](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/nobby-plumbs/32/60_2.png) [@Nobby-Plumbs](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nobby-Plumbs)\
**Post date:** [10 July 2016 17:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/78 "2016-07-10T17:08:40Z")

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“Utterly awful” or just not in line with your own thinking?

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [11 July 2016 10:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/79 "2016-07-11T10:45:53Z")

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Big rumours that Leadsom is about to pull out of the race.

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**Author:** ![Numptyboi](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/numptyboi/32/25_2.png) [@Numptyboi](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Numptyboi)\
**Post date:** [11 July 2016 11:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/fantasy-tory-leadership-game/492/80 "2016-07-11T11:20:11Z")

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She’s done just that! So it seems as though May’s campagin strategy has been to sit at home, bake a cake and drink some tea, whilst all of her opponents kick themselves in the arse.

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