# Chilcot **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [18 October 2015 10:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818 "2015-10-18T10:50:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 11:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/41 "2016-04-07T11:34:49Z")
Right. That’s another one getting deported to Jupiter. ---
**Author:** ![Sussexsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sussexsaint/32/74_2.png) [@Sussexsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sussexsaint)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 11:37 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/42 "2016-04-07T11:37:31Z")
> Originally posted by @Jack-Schitt > > > > > The World: the most amazing opportunity ever – ruined by cunts. [Hitch hiker guide to the galaxy voiced by Peter Jones] By pure coincidence the phrase 'Most amazing opportunity ever – ruined by cunts. Is the way the Encyclopedia Galactica refers to Saintsweb [/HHGTTGCBPJ] ---
**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 11:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/43 "2016-04-07T11:38:47Z")
srs you cunts don’t know how lucky you are. Pap harks back to Olden Days, but for most of world history, if someone gave birth to an undersize squirt like him he would have been immediately stomped to death, and would never had opportunity to comlpain about Dave Cameron’s dad having to dance on his ankles. I am sry to be personal, but I feel this subject v.deeply. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 11:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/44 "2016-04-07T11:51:57Z")
Believe it or not, I do have a lot of sympathy with your view, Bear. You are indeed, correct to point out that I was probably born at exactly the right time. By the time I had hit senior school, most people weren’t beating nerds up just for being nerds, and as you’ve remarked (in a roundabout way) before, I am built for these times. I am computer, remember? That said, the privileges life has bunged my way (being born in UK, not being dumbass, relatively cheap education) aren’t universal, and there are times we can look to and say “yep, we were better at _x_ then”. That applies to pretty much all of the basics, such as housing, health, education and the general attitude that we had toward the well-being of our fellow citizen. I would be very interested to see what sort of society we’d have if the basics were put front and centre, became pillars of our society. For example, how much crime would there be if people were fed, sheltered and watered, no questions asked? It’s a question that few bother asking, because we’re all too busy propping up the new religions, such as the global financial system. ---
**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 12:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/45 "2016-04-07T12:12:36Z")
You’ve made 2 points there, pap. The first point is that I was right all along + you concede this completely. This is a good point and you have made it well. I am willing to agree with this. The second point is that if ppl were all fed, shelter, and water, then there would be less crime and therefore a more civilised, superior society. This is the biggest load of bollocks ever! a) If you want to eliminate crime, you don’t do it by feeding people ffs, you do it by eliminating laws. 1. A low crime rate is the mark of a v._uncivilised_ society. Bees, to take one example, have zero crime rate, and they spend their days raping and stealing from flowers, and fucking their mum. You want to think of ways to increase crime rates, if you want to be more civilised, not decrease it ffs i.e. we could introduced laws against i.e. eating with ur mouth open and i.e. wanking on trains and it would be more civilize, but it would also be more crime. ---
**Author:** ![Jack-Schitt](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/jack-schitt/32/98_2.png) [@Jack-Schitt](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Jack-Schitt)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 12:40 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/46 "2016-04-07T12:40:33Z")
I’m sure you perfectly get where Pap is coming from Bear, and you’re just being your playful furry self. 😝 Imagine a world in which everyone has their basic needs met. Enough food to eat and clean water to drink, in order to stay alive in the world. A roof over their head to shelter under and some clothes to stay warm. If even just these basics were met for everyone, before we were allowed to start chasing and accumilating more shiny tat for ourselves – there would be a lot less critically poor and desperate people out there committing violent crimes in order to get what they need to survive, and to feed and clothe their families. Less desperation and needless avoidable poverty = less crime. ![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/0/d/0d94ff29a1aabef3a7dc6be60a382f52b2e6ca7f.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 12:48 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/47 "2016-04-07T12:48:20Z")
> Originally posted by @Jack-Schitt > > Imagine a world in which everyone has their basic needs met. Scarlett Johansson is going to be v.busy. And sore. ---
**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 12:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/48 "2016-04-07T12:55:46Z")
I don’t agree with this v.much. No-one ever tried to nick my Mars Bar, they always want my iPhone srs. You + pap, you watch too much Star Trek, you see them stupid machines on free-vend that make Ham Sandwiches out of i.e. Protons, and you think, that seems good system, but you overlook the fact that the ppl working on the spaceships are unpaid slaves + countless slaves die in engineering every time the ship gets attack by Klingons, and every time they send an away team down to the planet surface to investigate gravitational anomoly RIP ---
**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 13:07 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/49 "2016-04-07T13:07:18Z")
Bear is right. This should be legal. > **[Liveleak.com - Man caught wanking off in train](https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a2_1424774068)** > > lol ---
**Author:** ![Numptyboi](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/numptyboi/32/25_2.png) [@Numptyboi](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Numptyboi)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 13:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/50 "2016-04-07T13:58:14Z")
I’m sure that was Turkish. ---
**Author:** ![ericofarabia](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/ericofarabia/32/91_2.png) [@ericofarabia](https://www.sotonians.com/u/ericofarabia)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 14:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/51 "2016-04-07T14:29:00Z")
Looks like Tokyo’s last shopping trip went well. > **[LADbible - Redefining Entertainment & News For a Social Generation](https://www.ladbible.com/)** > > LADbible is the home of entertainment, viral video, trending content and the latest news. We are the biggest community in the world for a social generation. ---
**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2016 14:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/52 "2016-04-07T14:35:10Z")
I can never un-watch that. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [29 May 2016 06:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/53 "2016-05-29T06:36:00Z")
This will be coming up just after the referendum. As a brief taster, Peter Oborne and John Rentoul on the Daily Politics discussing the matter. [![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/3/2/32febd30045f8b2d52189622096cf98f6143bc75.jpeg "Is Tony Blair a war criminal? Peter Oborne v John Rentoul") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwTTGrTAi08) ---
**Author:** ![Rallyboy](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/0ea827/32.png) [@Rallyboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Rallyboy)\ **Post date:** [29 May 2016 08:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/54 "2016-05-29T08:27:34Z")
John Ren **tool**. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [29 May 2016 09:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/55 "2016-05-29T09:08:19Z")
> Originally posted by @Rallyboy > > John Ren **tool**. John Rentaghoul? ---
**Author:** ![Rallyboy](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/0ea827/32.png) [@Rallyboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Rallyboy)\ **Post date:** [29 May 2016 09:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/56 "2016-05-29T09:27:37Z")
He could earn a living as a Bowie look-a-like - but that’s where his skills end. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [9 June 2016 06:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/57 "2016-06-09T06:31:04Z")
![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/6/c/6c77956f2e4e47c7d70cca713e366b4b0f04b6b7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/gavstar/32/86128_2.png) [@gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/u/gavstar)\ **Post date:** [19 June 2016 13:16 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/58 "2016-06-19T13:16:40Z")
If Blair does (which I hope) get banged up, do you think we might see some implementation of the American Service Members’ Protection Act? ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [6 July 2016 08:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/59 "2016-07-06T08:49:01Z")
Report out today. Here’s a piece by the excellent Peter Oborne. > **[How Tony Blair lied to Parliament to fulfil his war promise to Bush](https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/how-tony-blair-lied-parliament-fulfil-his-war-promise-bush)** > > In an extract from Peter Oborne's new book Not the Chilcot Report, the author explores how Tony Blair lied to take the UK into war ---
**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\ **Post date:** [6 July 2016 08:52 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818/60 "2016-07-06T08:52:40Z")
This made I laugh > Chilcot once optimistically predicted his report would be published by late 2010. Three general elections have taken place between the start of the Iraq War in 2003 and the final publication. > > The process of Maxwellisation, which means anyone criticised in the Chilcot Inquiry has the right to respond before it is published, has been cited as the main reason for the delays. > > [Tony Blair has strenuously denied](http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/01/21/tonly-blair-snaps-at-reporter-chilcot-iraq-delay_n_6515642.html)he has held up publication by taking too long to respond to criticisms of him in the report. > > [A separate inquiry into the Maxwellisation process](http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/inquiry-chilcot-inquiry-process-twitter-reaction_uk_5702c80fe4b0884065f11924)has been launched in a bid to explain the delays. So we’re going to have an inquiry into why the inquiry was delayed!! [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818.md?page=2) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/chilcot/1818.md?page=4)