# :Ru: Care to comment on Russian aggression?

**URL:** <https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791>\
**Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\
**Created:** [25 November 2018 20:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791 "2018-11-25T20:28:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 13:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/121 "2018-11-28T13:11:24Z")

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You really are an arse. Award winning independent journalist, lauded for " his career distinguished by meticulously researched investigations, intrepid questioning, and reporting that has challenged mainstream media." And yet because it exposes your shallow and narrow argument for the shite it is you consider him a russian lackey. There really is no point in discussing this with you. Take your blinkers off son.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 13:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/122 "2018-11-28T13:18:54Z")

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Crimea is a part of Ukraines territory so only Ukraine can decide about Crimean independence, by all means let Ukraine give a referendum on it but it must be them and not through Russian invasion.  
Democracy, notice he say Crimea and not Ukraine.

This is not difficult, ceding is fine through legal means, this isn’t and wasn’t legal, its rather obvious.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 13:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/123 "2018-11-28T13:20:21Z")

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No its not, its perfectly fair and reasonable.

> **[International Criminal Court: Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Is A 'Crime,' Not...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2016/11/20/international-criminal-court-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-is-a-crime-not-a-civil-war/#4fd988827ddb)**
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> As Donald Trump picks his foreign policy team, he should worry about those who believe all or part of the Putin Ukraine narrative, which has just been shredded by the International Criminal Court report. Believe it or not, the Putin narrative that...

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 13:21 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/124 "2018-11-28T13:21:06Z")

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Off you trot to find some twitter nut who is a Russian lackey full of denial.

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 13:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/125 "2018-11-28T13:23:08Z")

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Sorry bazza but you lost all credibility on this thread with your comment about Parry. See ya.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 13:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/126 "2018-11-28T13:34:21Z")

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Its a bollocks article, have you read it?

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 13:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/127 "2018-11-28T13:36:03Z")

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While I’m told that Russia did provide some light weapons to the rebels early in the struggle so they could defend themselves and their territory and a number of Russian nationalists have crossed the border to join the fight the claims of an overt “invasion” with tanks, artillery and truck convoys have been backed up by scant intelligence.

He wrote that shit, its been proven heavy weapons have been given to rebels and there are Russian troops within Ukraine fighting.  
Its shit.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 13:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/128 "2018-11-28T13:38:28Z")

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> **[Ukrainian Separatists Parade Banned Heavy Weapons In Donetsk](https://www.rferl.org/a/ukrainian-separatists-parade-banned-heavy-weapons-banned-v-day-parade-donetsk/29218420.html)**
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> Russia-backed separatists who control the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk have held a Victory Day parade despite a ban on that type of celebration in Ukraine as well as on the tanks and other heavy weapons featured in the parade.

Did BA Baracus make them in a shed?

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 16:40 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/129 "2018-11-28T16:40:49Z")

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You slate Robert Parry and then quote cia mouthpiece radio free Europe.  
😂😂😂

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 16:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/130 "2018-11-28T16:42:19Z")

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Different side of the same coin, we’ve been over this before and its something you fail to understand, you’ll believe what you want to as it appear you have issues with the West, likewise with me concerning Russia.

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 16:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/131 "2018-11-28T16:47:19Z")

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You just come out with shit and can’t answer questions. You asked who’s territorial waters they were in. Don’t you know? What you write suggests not, but you are a person that slags off Parry, whilst believing bellendcat. I shouldn’t get my hopes up that you’ll spot the obvious lies.  
Crack on with your bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 16:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/132 "2018-11-28T16:49:40Z")

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You simply won’t acknowledge an invasion and occupation has and is taking place, the whole World sees it, heavens knows why you can’t.  
Parry said in that Russia only has given small arms to defenders, well thats a crock of shit we all know.

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**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 16:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/133 "2018-11-28T16:51:38Z")

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Get a room you two…

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 16:54 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/134 "2018-11-28T16:54:55Z")

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![6e8](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/2X/5/5491bc7daebda3936f9e22d7764ac14dcac9dd74.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/gavstar/32/86128_2.png) [@gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/u/gavstar)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 17:00 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/135 "2018-11-28T17:00:02Z")

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Could give Cesar Romero a run for his money.

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**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 17:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/136 "2018-11-28T17:02:15Z")

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You really should keep your sexual fantasies to yourself Bazza. I’m about to eat my dinner FFS!

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**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 17:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/137 "2018-11-28T17:08:31Z")

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> [@Barry-Sanchez](#):
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> ![6e8](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/2X/5/5491bc7daebda3936f9e22d7764ac14dcac9dd74.jpeg)

Have you been doing weights big man. Looking buff. :lou_is_a_flirt:

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 19:17 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/138 "2018-11-28T19:17:16Z")

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When you say this.

> [@Barry-Sanchez](#):
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> More spurious quotes there,

Do you mean this?

> [@Barry-Sanchez](#):
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> While I’m told that Russia did provide some light weapons to the rebels early in the struggle so they could defend themselves and their territory and a number of Russian nationalists have crossed the border to join the fight the claims of an overt “invasion” with tanks, artillery and truck convoys have been backed up by scant intelligence.
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> He wrote that shit, its been proven heavy weapons have been given to rebels and there are Russian troops within Ukraine fighting.  
> Its shit.

Where did he write this, because it’s not in the article goat posted? The only mention of assistance is this.

However, when the Kiev regime announced an “anti-terrorism operation” against the Donbas and dispatched neo-Nazi and other extremist militias to be the tip of the spear, Moscow began quietly assisting the embattled ethnic Russian rebels, a move that Nuland, the Obama administration and the mainstream news media called “Russian aggression.”

Now i’m left wondering two things.  
1)is he an idiot, because the ‘proof’ from radio cia anti Russia\* was published 3 whole years after the Parry article.So even if true, it wasn’t known in 2015. You understand how a calendar works?  
2)Why are you attributing words to Parry that don’t appear in posted article, without providing a link, so those of us that understand a calendar can check the dates?  
\*they were set up by the cia for anti Russia propaganda.  
Want to do your claim about territorial waters next?

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 19:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/139 "2018-11-28T19:18:12Z")

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Surely if in in his article then he subscribes to it?

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2018 19:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/care-to-comment-on-russian-aggression/4791/140 "2018-11-28T19:20:38Z")

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And again

> [@Saint-or-sinner](#):
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> Where did he write this, because it’s not in the article goat posted?

Not mention of what kind of weapons, as you seriously claim.

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