# :brexit: Brexit - The Ramifications **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [25 June 2016 07:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015 "2016-06-25T07:19:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 217
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [5 December 2017 08:48 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4340 "2017-12-05T08:48:35Z")
Fuck me. I never thought I’d see the day where I saw @bathsaint doing a pound shop Bazza. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [5 December 2017 19:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4341 "2017-12-05T19:49:22Z")
Where is Baz by the way? ---
**Author:** ![Rust-Cohle](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/rust-cohle/32/65_2.png) [@Rust-Cohle](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Rust-Cohle)\ **Post date:** [5 December 2017 20:06 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4342 "2017-12-05T20:06:53Z")
He’s involved in the negotiations. With all due respect he’s not exactly got time to be posting on here ffs. ---
**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 07:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4343 "2017-12-06T07:50:47Z")
Lol good ol’ Pap, wheeling out the Bazza quip. That one never gets tired ::yawn:: ---
**Author:** ![gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/gavstar/32/86128_2.png) [@gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/u/gavstar)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 13:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4344 "2017-12-06T13:29:07Z")
Is this important? Are ‘impact assessments’ generally useful or are they a bit hit and miss? Or is that not the point and they should be done as a matter of course? Or is this scenario too unique for these to be of any value? To be honest my eyes glaze over a bit on stuff like this so feel free to educate me. > **[Brexit impact assessments 'don't exist'](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42249854)** > > Labour calls it a "shambles" but David Davis says impact assessments would be of "near zero" use. ---
**Author:** ![gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/gavstar/32/86128_2.png) [@gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/u/gavstar)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 13:33 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4345 "2017-12-06T13:33:16Z")
Well Baz had better pull his finger out because he still needs to start his thread on the subject of ‘Well it’s happening again, same as last year and if you don’t realise… (thread title tails off and picks up in 1st post) …that we are in a relegation battle then you better wake up and smell what the Baz is cookin’. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 18:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4346 "2017-12-06T18:24:54Z")
Was listening to Mair on PM on the way home. Some interesting listening. They had an expert pollster on. 61% think that the government is handling Brexit badly. 60% think the EU is handling negotiations badly. And yet, there is apparently “no material difference” in the Remain or Leave voting intentions. I guess people are smart enough to separate Brexit in the abstract from Brexit as implemented by this bunch of fucking clowns. ---
**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 18:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4347 "2017-12-06T18:36:16Z")
You would like to think that these would have been carried out before the vote and used by both sides to support their positions. The fact that they are saying that no one had any idea of what Brexit meant in real terms is a tad worrying. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 19:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4348 "2017-12-06T19:20:24Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 19:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4349 "2017-12-06T19:28:44Z")
Their webmaster’s letter of resignation? ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 19:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4350 "2017-12-06T19:35:16Z")
Nope. Third rate web developer using jQuery, CSS selectors, screenshots and mischief in equal measure. ---
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 19:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4351 "2017-12-06T19:43:34Z")
I would be seriously worried if folks were changing their opinion on how shit the negotiations were going… They were always going to be shit because no one had given any thought to the challenging nature of them- especially NI/Eire etc… or the fact that EU dont want us to leave…so why make it easy on us? We could have used the threat of leaving to negotiate a bigger voice and address the problems had any politicos had any balls, afterall we were told the referendum was not binding, only advisory… ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 19:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4352 "2017-12-06T19:51:43Z")
This is where I have a bit of sympathy for May. She has got probably the most difficult negotiation of recent history with the most truculent opposition of all time. I would rather negotiate with the Ayatollah than those bunch of shysters. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 20:06 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4353 "2017-12-06T20:06:56Z")
No sympathy whatsoever. She had a 15 seat majority in her own party \_and \_the implicit support of the Unionist parties. She called a general election after saying that she wouldn’t do it, because it would harm the health of the country’s negotiating position, before finally declaring it was necessary because she didn’t like the fact that opposing parties were proffering opposing views. She utterly failed to turn up, and when she did, she was shown up. She expects us to believe that she can negotiate with the big boys of Europe, but couldn’t face Corbyn in a TV debate. She should have stood aside when it was clear that Brexit, a position she’d never supported, had won the argument, clearing the way for someone who’d actually thought about a post-Brexit Britain. She didn’t. She pursued a “submariner” approach during the EU Referendum, saying almost nothing to support her boss, and much to contradict him. On taking office, May talked about tackling “burning injustices”. There is a 24 storey tomb in North Kensington that happened under her watch, and I am not alone in questioning the official conclusions that have been drawn. The only thing that May ever did successfully was plan for her ascension. Beyond that, she has no ideas. None. I have no sympathy whatsoever. I have sympathy for the poor cunts that have to live under her fucking inept “rule”. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 20:17 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4354 "2017-12-06T20:17:31Z")
C’mon, AG. That’s not really an argument that makes a great deal of sense. Most people that voted out did so with at least some notion that their EU partners, especially Germany and France, might be overbearing, meddling buggers. If that was in their heads, don’t you think it might also have entered their heads that negotiations would be difficult? I knew up front they would be. The EU wants our nation-state arse kicked so badly on the way out that no-one ever considers it again. We knew this. We chose this anyway, because if those are your partners, that’s a relationship you need to get out of, no matter the cost of the “divorce bill”. ---
**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 20:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4355 "2017-12-06T20:20:11Z")
Hold on, following that logic, Corbin also should strap aside because he supported remain :lou_eyes_to_sky: ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 20:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4356 "2017-12-06T20:23:34Z")
“Corbin”. Bless. ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 20:30 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4357 "2017-12-06T20:30:20Z")
“Bless”??? fucking hell Pap, you really are a condescending cunt sometimes ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 20:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4358 "2017-12-06T20:41:19Z")
When required, every fucking time. “Corbin” Bless. ---
**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 05:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4359 "2017-12-07T05:12:27Z")
That’s okay, I’d expect nothing less from ‘humble’ Pap (also conveniently means he doesn’t have to answer the question) [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015.md?page=216) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015.md?page=218)