# :brexit: Brexit - The Ramifications

**URL:** <https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015>\
**Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\
**Created:** [25 June 2016 07:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015 "2016-06-25T07:19:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TheMightyOstrich](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/themightyostrich/32/129_2.png) [@TheMightyOstrich](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TheMightyOstrich)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 11:17 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4280 "2017-11-30T11:17:08Z")

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Out of (genuine) interest, where does the extra money come from to restore the nurse bursary and increase wages to make the profession more appealing? Is this the magical £350-million-a-week bus slogan money?

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**Author:** ![gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/gavstar/32/86128_2.png) [@gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/u/gavstar)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 11:25 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4281 "2017-11-30T11:25:04Z")

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Would be good to see this happen, as it is a prime example of investing in human resources and planning for the future and incentivising staff retention. Now if only Jeremy Hunt visited Sotonians… :lou_wink_2:

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**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 11:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4282 "2017-11-30T11:31:21Z")

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I mentioned before, but I have been intimately examining nurses for a few months now, and conclude it is already a Good Job Option for ppl. Unfairly maligned imo. Good job security, good Benefits, 4 days a week, decent pay. Got some bills to pay? No problem! Log on your app and you can do overtime tomorrow at +£££ rates. My squeeze draws £60k a year. She is more top Matron than Nurse, but she ain’t brain of britain trust. She thinks first world war happened in “1930, or something like that. It was couple of years before the one with Hitler.”

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**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 11:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4283 "2017-11-30T11:35:20Z")

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Supply and demand.

Well, how about everyone gets poorer due to a shrinking economy? Less tax so no money to pay those expensive foreign doctors who keep the NHS going and no money to train new ones. So, our already stretched services become even more stretched?

This may not happen. We may be marching into some kind of utopia of a burgeoning economy, our goods and services in massive demand all over the world, the white heat of industry burining strongly in cities across the land. This may happen but, at the moment, there are precious few signals that it will happen.

Just the other day I heard that, despite assurances from the Government to the car industry that everything will be hunkydory after Brexit, they don’t seem so convinced. Apparently, investment in the car industry has plumeted by about 60%. Hardly a ringing endorsement for our direction of travel, is it? :lou_sad:

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**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 11:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4284 "2017-11-30T11:38:08Z")

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Is this your squeeze who is carrying your sprog?

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**Author:** ![gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/gavstar/32/86128_2.png) [@gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/u/gavstar)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 11:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4285 "2017-11-30T11:42:18Z")

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Found her

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 12:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4286 "2017-11-30T12:13:09Z")

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By the time the Tories have finished reducing corporation tax, it’ll be 17%.

It was 26% when they took office. That’s a ton of money that could be clawed back.

We could also look at reversing the Personal Allowance threshold changes, which puts close to fuck all in the individual’s weekly wage packet while divesting billions from the annual public purse.

Out of genuine interest, did you give this any thought? Whatsoever?

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 12:48 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4287 "2017-11-30T12:48:24Z")

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You’re definitely banging Mrs Goat.

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**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 13:07 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4288 "2017-11-30T13:07:15Z")

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Who isn’t? (aprt from yourself, obvs)

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**Author:** ![TheMightyOstrich](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/themightyostrich/32/129_2.png) [@TheMightyOstrich](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TheMightyOstrich)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 13:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4289 "2017-11-30T13:38:31Z")

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Jesus, fuck off pap you condescending cock-end.

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**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 14:05 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4290 "2017-11-30T14:05:44Z")

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It’s for intellectual debates like these that I paid my £5.

I did read a quite interesting thing a while back saying bout how the total Corporation Tax Receipts has actually gone up 10% or something over the period that the Tory’s have been trimming the rate. They was looking at the reasons cos it seems so Strange, I don’t remember/didn’t understand much of it, but I remember one of them was because some big companies like i.e. McDonald’s moved headquarters to UK to take advantage of the reduced rate.

I will try + find article if you are interest. I usually read the Sun, Beano, and Big Jugs Weekly, so it was prob in one of them.

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 14:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4291 "2017-11-30T14:14:12Z")

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Stop asking idiotic fucking questions then.

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**Author:** ![TheMightyOstrich](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/themightyostrich/32/129_2.png) [@TheMightyOstrich](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TheMightyOstrich)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 14:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4292 "2017-11-30T14:34:13Z")

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[![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/4/3/432743e2ac5818af64e9295c71697a3d52f995d4.jpeg "Slow Clap") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW68goC4_es)

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 14:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4293 "2017-11-30T14:41:44Z")

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I understand you’re upset, @themightyostrich .

You posted with what you thought was a zinger. You talked about magic money buses.

You got your fucking arse kicked,

Slow clap, indeed.

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**Author:** ![TheMightyOstrich](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/themightyostrich/32/129_2.png) [@TheMightyOstrich](https://www.sotonians.com/u/TheMightyOstrich)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 14:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4294 "2017-11-30T14:57:57Z")

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If you consider that an arse-kicking then I think I’m starting to understand your claims to be a magnificent street brawler that all the posh boys are scared of. :lou_facepalm_2:

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 15:21 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4295 "2017-11-30T15:21:42Z")

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You’ll be able to sit down in say, a week or two.

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**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 15:26 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4296 "2017-11-30T15:26:16Z")

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Yes, Pap and MO, all very grown up of you, I’m sure. :lou_eyes_to_sky:

I’ve listened to the latest edition Richard Herring’s RHLSP (as all the cool kids are calling it). Surprisingly, he had Ed Milliband on. Ed wouldn’t answer the questions on sucking his own cock and being in the middle of a human centipede :lou_eyes_to_sky: but he did have, what I thought, were some interesting points to make about Brexit.

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 15:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4297 "2017-11-30T15:42:13Z")

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Confirm the ol’ bias, did they?

Also, it’s RHLSTP :lou_wink_2:

Yours, cool kid.

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**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 16:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4298 "2017-11-30T16:13:27Z")

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Oops, missed off the T (I’ll change that in the edit - edit, I won’t)

Actually, no, he didn’t confirm the bias (or at least, not as much as I thought he might). Two things he said stood out to me:

1. No second referendum. This surprised me - I guess he might be watching out for his seat but I don’t think he’d be too worried about that really.

2. He didn’t go left enough in his election and had some nice things to say about Corbyn - again, I don’t think he feels obliged to have to say these things and probably wouldn’t care too much if he were deselected.

I don’t really think he has much to lose by saying whatever he likes so think he was being honest.

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [30 November 2017 17:33 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/brexit-the-ramifications/2015/4299 "2017-11-30T17:33:47Z")

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Listened to most of it on the way home. He seems to have a much better handle on why Brexit happened than most of the still-bleating Remainers.

He seems to believe in the principle of democracy, for one.

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