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His ā€˜sentiment’ and ā€˜desire’ surely add up to what is essentially his ā€˜choice’, freedom of choice, freedom of expression, if you take away someone’s freedom of choice and expression what are you left with? Someone being forced to conform I’d argue, regardless of how worthy the cause.

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Human nature. The moment you’re compelled to do something is the moment a big part of you says ā€œfuck youā€.

I’ve been vocal on social media in support of black lives this year, especially Facebook. My niece (a.k.a my ā€œracistā€ father’s grand-daughter), who is bi-racial, has been a fierce and powerful campaigner. She wrote a post that made me realise I hadn’t said enough on the matter. She mentioned that many of the white folk she knew on Facebook that were super-vocal about Brexit or COVID had nothing to say on BLM.

She was right, both in her statement and her approach. It is far better than the one I saw last night and spilled over into this morning, which seemed to consist of a series of demonstrably false claims if one takes the time to read the 2020 content.

I shouldn’t have to say this because it is perfectly obvious from both the content and the feedback, but this site is not racist and neither am I. In fact, we both tend to react to it quite quickly.

I’d lpve to say that today’s episode was merely the function of Captain Meltdown, but in truth it has been enabled by a few people deciding to equate the Brexit vote with racism, and it’s not fucking on.

It’s not a fair reflection of the site, which as I said, reacts quite quickly, and it’s certainly not a fair reflection on me.

If it’s all the same to these people, I’ll take my guidance on whether I’m a giant fucking racist or not from people that I interact with in real life, particularly my friends and relatives that veer on the non-pink side of pigmentation, tyvm.

Can’t we just clap for BLM on a Thursday night? My old knees are fucked.

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That was going to be my reply but I chickened out…

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When the TV commentator is saying " to show solidarity" when players take a knee in a football game with a bored tone you know it is time for a new or at least an updated message for them to ā€œreadā€

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Was never a fan of the All Lives Matter shit. I can see why people might go for it, because on the surface, why should that be problematic?

However, in the context of BLM, it just acts as a diluter, shifting focus from a specific issue into the more general issue of poor people of any race being shit upon.

There are other remedies for that, and it’s a real problem. What a shame people are too busy saying something meaningless (and by any objective standard, untrue) instead of seeking other means of redress for their own problems.

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It also implies that some people still misunderstand the concept/conditions that led to the need for the BLM campaign
#walkingoneggshells

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I lived in Brixton for 18 years leaving in 2002. I was a night controller for a large cab firm and on my shifts I had to stop giving people a cab from our office if they were ethnic due to the number of drivers that were mugged or not paid after taking the customers to their destination. Even our BAME drivers didn’t want to take them. I myself was mugged twice and once lost my car. I know we have bad white people as well but my experience will always haunt me.
Not enough to say that all lives matter over exceeds the message BLM says. My feeling though is that these movements are hampered as there are many white people who have suffered death in their family from black sources.

THERE IS RACISM ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD BEFORE WE GET ANYWHERE.

Me, I am comfortable now as no longer feel threatened every time I leave my front door.

That’s poverty rather than colour though. It happens to coincide, and yes, over time things settle into more harmful things than poverty and things like gang culture turn up.

That’s why I never got too upset about the 2011 riots. Why would anyone care about criminal damage to something they’ve never felt they had a stake in?

You and I both know that the vast majority of black folk in London live in areas that can be described as shitholes, even taking London into account. Places with no tube stations, yet still carry on charging rents that can only be afforded if you’re making some serious bank. And where you can’t even get a taxi.

I was permanently blinded in my left eye by a bi-racial nipper in Southampton. I had my jaw broken in two places by a coked up white scouser. I’m not making excuses for them; they were both cunts, but neither am I going to make decisions ahead of time about people that happen to similarly hued (bi-racial thug) or voiced (scouse thug).

Life’s just too fucking long to carry something like that about.

Some people never get over being badly beaten up, and BLM in my humble opinion is now being used by western Marxist organisations that hate the state, does BLM represent all underepresented or western ones?
What about Angolans? Sudenese?

I know, and they shouldn’t, but they should learn from it.

Ending up wary of an entire group of people just because of the actions of one is not the lesson to learn.

No Pap, they’re wary and scared of being beaten again, its not the colour in many cases its the questions of not knowing how and why it happened.
Its a class war not a colour one (or it should be but the powers that be will allow this to continue as it’ll peter out and a class structure change scares them far more), the World will never be free until all women are equal to men also.

I’m not sure you read the post I was responding to, or my response. First thing I said was that it was more about poverty than colour.

Have another go.

I was responding to your reply concerning someone being scared of a colour due to being assaulted, poverty isn’t an excuse to riot, most don’t know they’re being manipulated, its a class struggle.

Well I welcome all views and don’t want to deter new people like @BaggySaint from posting, so let’s shift over to what Liam Neeson recently admitted, that he wanted to go out and kill a black person after somebody close was raped by a black person.

In the context of a civilised society, especially for someone like Neeson, that’s not a rational conclusion to make. After all, he’s been all over the world and worked with all people over the world.

These aren’t rational thoughts. They’re tribal, barely more than animalistic, and when you think about it, it isn’t actually that surprising that Neeson, a Norn Iron man, fell back on tribalism after suffering a personal trauma.

I’m glad Neeson spoke out and that he probably deserves more credit for his honesty than condemnation for his moments of madness.

It was a reminder to a lot of people about how quickly people can get to a very bad place, and more importantly, how they can get over it.

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You do know a lot of people from Northern Ireland suffer from PTSD and it has a very high suicide rate?

Thats not the point I’m making, I’m making SOME don’t ever get over that or it takes take to, Baggy Saint could be this person so take it easy on them.
Life isn’t trial and retribution or Taken.

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Harry Maguire may disagree.

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