# đŸ€Ș 2019 General Election Discussion :gov: **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [30 October 2019 08:06 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350 "2019-10-30T08:06:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 10:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/41 "2019-10-31T10:58:52Z")
Hmm. Murray seems to have conflated some things there. To my mind, there was never and still isn’t a big anti-immigrant franchise. There are plenty of people opposed to mass immigration of unskilled workers. The distinction is worth pointing out, I reckon. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 11:01 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/42 "2019-10-31T11:01:46Z")
Isn’t it you that’s always saying small numbers can have a big impact? ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 11:05 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/43 "2019-10-31T11:05:07Z")
I think the main thrust of the article is that now there is a danger of Farage splitting the Tory vote he seems to be getting little airtime. Do you think this is a coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 11:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/44 "2019-10-31T11:08:30Z")
[https://twitter.com/JolyonRubs/status/1141395560852840449?s=20](https://twitter.com/JolyonRubs/status/1141395560852840449?s=20) ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 11:09 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/45 "2019-10-31T11:09:08Z")
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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 11:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/46 "2019-10-31T11:23:56Z")
Always read the small print. ![libcon](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/2X/e/ed2fdc3243f46a87bc7464e64e0820d658039dcb.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 12:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/47 "2019-10-31T12:45:30Z")
> [@pap](#): > > mass immigration See this is the sort of thing that always ‘bugged me’ - when you look at the numbers, there was never a ‘mass’ immigration. Everyone needs to be careful of the words they use as they are extremely powerful
 and to many the word ‘mass’ has more impact on their POV, than the more important factor
 it matters NOT how many folks arrive, more important is the impact they have on our economy and society
 where the truth got lost in a lot of rhetoric, spin and in some cases quite ignorant and even racist campaign material (see Farage and his nice ‘breaking point’ posters) - put together ‘mass’ and breaking point and pictures of syrian refugees, and it DID cause some folks to believe brexit was the solution
 as unpalatable as that may seem. So by all means talk about the impact of immigration if you wish, but using words ‘recklessly’ like mass, does your credibility no favours
 its what spin doctors did and do
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**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 15:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/48 "2019-10-31T15:35:44Z")
Rumours that Johnson is going to jump ship and parachute himself into the safe Melton and Rutland seat sir Alan Duncan has vacated. If true expect Duncan to be rewarded for his self sacrifice with a peerage and a nice fat salaried position on some quango. I suppose Melton would be apt, isn’t that where they manufacture pork pies? ---
**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 15:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/49 "2019-10-31T15:51:16Z")
> [@Nottarf-Krap](#): > > isn’t that where they manufacture pork pies? 👍 LOL ---
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 16:04 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/50 "2019-10-31T16:04:15Z")
> [@Nottarf-Krap](#): > > sn’t that where they manufacture pork pies Brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 16:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/51 "2019-10-31T16:51:36Z")
lol. Hope you don’t mind me nicking this for Twitter! ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 17:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/52 "2019-10-31T17:28:19Z")
[https://twitter.com/skwawkbox](https://twitter.com/skwawkbox) ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2019 09:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/53 "2019-11-01T09:47:29Z")
This has to be a massive vote winner for Labour. If i was Mr no ifs no buts, i’d want the orange gimp to stfu before my campaign ended up dead in a ditch. [![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/9/7/974cf8b1f06ef67fb182e2d70201d7ba809c29ea.jpeg "EXCLUSIVE: Trump tells LBC "Corbyn would be so bad for your country" | LBC") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoZrx3iR6us) ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2019 10:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/54 "2019-11-01T10:45:45Z")
Well, there’s certainly precedent for the British public completely ignoring the (ahem) “advice” of the US President. Remember the “back of the queue”? ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2019 11:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/55 "2019-11-01T11:24:44Z")
Yeah, it should turn some people’s stomachs and hopefully remind them of where a tory vote will take them. ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2019 11:37 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/56 "2019-11-01T11:37:07Z")
George Washington - I cannot tell a lie. Boris Johnson- I cannot tell the truth. Donald Trump - I cannot tell the difference. ---
**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2019 11:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/57 "2019-11-01T11:51:35Z")
Just how divided is the Tory party? [https://twitter.com/SkyeCitySeries/status/1190063303600541696?s=09](https://twitter.com/SkyeCitySeries/status/1190063303600541696?s=09) ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2019 13:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/58 "2019-11-01T13:12:39Z")
Hell hath no fury like a former PM who sees his legacy (Maastricht) shat on from a great height He is still fighting the referendum ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2019 15:46 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/59 "2019-11-01T15:46:45Z")
> **[Sky, BBC, ITV all refused tonight to tell millions Johnson booed out of...](https://skwawkbox.org/2019/10/31/sky-bbc-itv-all-refused-tonight-to-tell-millions-johnson-booed-out-of-hospital-here-are-rules-they-must-follow-in-ge/)** > > Video footage of Boris Johnson fleeing Addenbrooke’s hospital has gone viral – but ignored by ‘mainstream’ broadcasters. Ofcom rules will demand change Boris Johnson’s
 Interesting that the student doctor, and other doctors at Addenbrookes, were not told Johnson was coming, indeed they say they were told that “they weren’t allowed to know he was here”. Really? Why, and on who’s say so? Quite sinister if it’s the shape of things to come during the election campaign. Also interesting that Johnson only seems to visit primary schools. Is he frightened of meeting anyone over 7 years old in case they might ask intelligent questions he is incapable of answering? ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2019 16:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350/60 "2019-11-01T16:24:42Z")
As far as flummoxing this PM goes, I wouldn’t rule out primary school kids. [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350.md?page=2) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/2019-general-election-discussion/5350.md?page=4)